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Jesse276
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City of Milwaukee Neighborhoods
Over the last 10 years there has been a lot of movement in many neighborhoods around the city. For many this has been good and for others not so much.
What neighborhoods do you see as becoming better places to live over the next 10 years? Are there any neighborhoods that won't do so well?
Personally I think Bayview will continue its incremental improvement. My guess is that that it will continue to attract many more restaurants and social venues. The Avalon Theatre will be re-opened into an art-house format that is a cross between the Downer/Oriental and the Miramar Theatres. Also, there will be more local businesses opening to fill up KK a bit more.
I can see Bayview improving but not gentriying and pushing people out. Some challenges and opportunities will lie in the redevelopment of the many industrial areas adjacent to the neighborhood. Also, a large challenge will be opening up the KK river to the residents of the area, that corridor could complement the neighborhood as a green ribbon.
Lastly is the issue of access to the neighborhood. Over the last 10 years, traffic seems to be worse during rush hour. While there are some bus routes, their placements are odd at best and the service can be spotty. Something needs to be changed in this department, although a potential
Go ahead, share your thoughts, even if you don't live in a neighborhood.
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12/13/2006, 12:45 pm
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Re: City of Milwaukee Neighborhoods
I live on the East Side and I can't see that or Riverwest going anywhere but up.
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12/14/2006, 5:18 am
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Re: City of Milwaukee Neighborhoods
I think all the areas surrounding downtown will improve. Bayview is going to continue getting better, as will the Third Ward and areas on the Eastside. The key for these areas is retail in my opinion. The Fifth Ward is exploding in a figurative manner unlike that factory down the road. The westside of downtown, Brewers Hill and Riverwest are still rough around the edges--but will improve as new people move in and (this will sound bad) the old people move out. Sorry, but urban proffesionals, yuppies, college students will always bring more to a neighborhood than thugs, crackhouses, prostitution, drug dealers, etc.
Unfortunaly, the ghetto is moving north to my side of town on the far northwest side ("Granville"). I can tell you that this area will see more and more problems. That woman who got strangled and burnt in the dumpster was pretty much right down the block from me and there were a few other murders in the area. I believe the taxes are cheaper up here and there are plenty of lower income apartment complexes. In my opinion, it is already an extention of the ghetto. Some up on this side even refer to it as the "new ghetto". Most people on this board or at SSC probally dont care about this side of town--as it isnt as dense, urban, trendy as the other parts of the city. It is however quite diverse, very young, makes up a sizeable percentage of Milwaukee population, home to many jobs, and (I could be wrong) has seen more residental development that most areas of the city.
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12/14/2006, 7:06 pm
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Re: City of Milwaukee Neighborhoods
Bronzeville is always high on the list for most improving neighborhoods. North Ave, as well as MLK will see many more bright lights at night in the years to come I would think.
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12/14/2006, 7:11 pm
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I lived on the NW side from 1998-2002, near Appleton and Silver Spring. I have family that lives near 60th and Good Hope as well. I agree that overall that side of town is going downhill but I don't think it will be such a drop. The biggest hits have already been taken with the retail landscape on Brown Deer Road and the changing of some of the formerly quiet neighborhoods.
I myself, was carjacked in front of my house so I know some of this firsthand. However, I don't think it will become the new ghetto for a few reasons. This area is still seeing new development from pricy subdivisions and the business parks are very healthy. Also, the NW side is not a neighborhood in a traditional sense, there are many enclaves which prevent the spread of blight. I lived in a pocket that was just north of the apartment ghetto bordered by 91st, Appleton, and Silver Spring. While where I lived was a formerly very nice neighborhood, it has declined because there is too much spill over crime. ALthough the neighborhood a half mile up Appleton ave or up Silver Spring has retained its value due to its seperation. While this type of development prevents the area from ever becoming a walkable urban enironment, it is containing the spread of blight generally.
My hope is the city doesn't just write off the NW side as has been done with other formerly struggling areas of the city. While it won't regain the status it had, the NW side does have much potential.
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12/15/2006, 1:11 am
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^yeah, perhaps I sounded a bit to negative on the area. There are still many areas on the Northwest side (the Granville "neighborhood" is huge and like you said, not a traditional neighborhood) that are not bad at all. The problems are 9/10 times taking place in the apartment complexes. However, they are spread all around the area--which spreads the problems. The area is kind of interesting in that way.
These new neighborhoods are popping up all over. The only thing that outpaces them are JJ's Fish and Chicken and big churches like the huge one at 83 and Good Hope. That church bought out the entire strip mall next to the old Johnsons mini golf course (which someone has to reopen). These homes are huge and expensive--the neighborhoods safe as can be. However, right across the street or right down the block are in many instances these shitty apartment complexes. You got golf courses nearby these apartments. Shoot, the northwest side has to have more golf courses per capita than anywhere else in the state.
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I am hoping that Timmerman Field sells its land. Just think of what that would mean for the area if instead of a useless airport--there would be factories and businesses? It has got to be the most worthless spot in the city, considering its location.
I would also like to see Marcus tear down Northtown and build a better theater somewhere else in the area. Or better yet, tie in a new development to the old Johnsons Park. A movie theater/mini golf course/go-kart track/arcade? I can dig it. Of course, I can imagine there would be some issues with that in terms of crime and punk kids. There is a ton of land there to do something like that, not including its parking lots. Something in that manner could add greatly to the area and actually give people in the area something to do. This is probally one of the youngest areas in the city--so a development like this could do well. You already have alot of stuff near 76th and Good Hope. That huge learning center being built, Uihlein Soccer Field/Milwaukee Kickers, Noyes Golf Course/Hiking Trail/Swimming Pool, as well as a new Home Depot, Hoffers Pet Store (the absolute best in the city and perhaps one of the best in the state), Happy Hobby (its like one of those old, chaotic book stores--but with model airplanes/cars/spaceships etc.) and Starbucks, and some interesting resturants such as Yen Ching and New Bangkok.
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I know from going to Northtown that they just finished a fairly large remodeling of the theatres there, so I would be suprised if they closed or moved.
Timmerman airport is a huge chunk of land in the area. It represents a huge potential but any change in use will have to be the result of a lot of planning. In order to abandon a current airport, the FAA requires that a replacement airport is completed and available to take the traffic from the airport to be closed. Considering the scarcity of huge chunks of land in the metro, available for a new airport, I can't see this happening unless the FAA rule is waived or altered.
Perhaps if they were able to cut some deal with Wick's Field in Waukesha to expand/take the traffic?
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^wow, I did not know that about Northtown. I know driving past they put a pretty cool movie mural thing--but I havent been there since the days of Judge Dredd, Mortal Kombat Annihaliaiton, and the Lion King. Despite Northtown being 5 minutes away from my house--I always go to Menonmonee Falls. Ill have to go check in out in there now.
Dont know too much about airports or how much use people in the community get from Timmerman. Im guessing here that its mainly used of course by people not in that part of the city--or even the city of Milwaukee itself. I kind of figured one would have to jump through hoops for the FAA to get something like that done. Just one of my many fantasies for the area and Milwaukee. Never heard of Wicks Field to be quite honest with you. Where is that?
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I think he meant Crites Field in Waukesha. Wick Field is some softball diamonds at about 55th/Vliet.
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